tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8237846547805652402.post2868761922271761109..comments2014-02-03T14:46:43.219-05:00Comments on EP-ology by Carl V. Phillips: Extremists' use of terminology to bully e-cig communityCarl V Phillipshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01919902852457771666noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8237846547805652402.post-27591610150022020862010-12-15T08:50:33.853-05:002010-12-15T08:50:33.853-05:00For the record:
I have sometimes chosen to use &q...For the record:<br /><br />I have sometimes chosen to use "Smoke-free" rather than "Smokeless" or "low-risk" to be politically neutral. I was concerned that "smokeless" was the generally accepted term for traditional chewing tobacco, and "low-risk" could be perceived as a (unproven?) health claim. <br /><br />It is called "e-liquid" because it what you use in an "e-cigarette" and it is a liquid. :P Combustible cigarettes are called "analogs" in reference to our Digital Age where we have even digitized our cigarettes, but some people prefer the realism of (an) analog.<br /><br />With that said, I completely agree with your sentiments. I think that "Liquid Tobacco" or maybe "Vape Juice" might be more appropriate terms.<br /><br />I suspect that "PV" and "mods" will remain insider lingo among the Vaping Community for a while. Most of the time, I will refer to an "e-cig" even though I haven't used a PV that looks like a cigarette in a very long time.The Devil's Thadvocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365914932648272702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8237846547805652402.post-72259082070794690612010-12-13T14:02:35.472-05:002010-12-13T14:02:35.472-05:00Thanks for the comments everyone.
That is another...Thanks for the comments everyone.<br /><br />That is another good example, Randall. I know they are called hookahs in Arabic and usually that is adopted in English, but do not know if there are other languages/places where they have different names, and so "waterpipe" is a neutral among them. Do you know?<br /><br />I agree with Paul's reasoning, and will try to keep using e-cigarette as long as it is acceptable (but try to avoid "e-liquid" which just makes no sense to me -- the liquid is not electric!). After all, if I need to save characters, EC is as short as PV. I understand the desire to distance, and that probably serves some purposes but on net I think understanding of what is relevant is served by emphasizing the sameness. Besides, it is the sameness that saved e-cigs in the U.S. -- if they had been more different, they probably would not have gotten the reprieve from the extremists at the FDA.Carl V Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01919902852457771666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8237846547805652402.post-5173137797087433442010-12-13T11:11:54.180-05:002010-12-13T11:11:54.180-05:00Though I do understand the desire for distancing t...Though I do understand the desire for distancing to avoid stigma (and having a handy short term to enable speedy communication) I worry about the overall effects of separation of the camps which could actually hamper smokers from moving over. See http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/magazine/vaping.htmlPaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14424478095917821743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8237846547805652402.post-55830009980531601452010-12-12T23:36:49.742-05:002010-12-12T23:36:49.742-05:00Actually, the first product that Sottera (NJOY) so...Actually, the first product that Sottera (NJOY) sold in the U.S. was the NGAR, a product that looks (and tastes) exactly like a cigar. The cigarette version did not come along until the following year.Vocal EKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08797128689808591929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8237846547805652402.post-52053497892955585532010-12-12T18:01:27.966-05:002010-12-12T18:01:27.966-05:00There are two main reasons for renaming E-cigs Per...There are two main reasons for renaming E-cigs Personal Vaporizers among those that use them.<br /><br />First from a very personal standpoint, when you post a lot of text PV is an easier abbreviation and less key strokes.<br /><br />From a political standpoint, a PV further distances itself from "cigarettes". If you are speaking with someone that may be a tobacco nazi (or as you say an anti-tobacco extremist, remember when it was just the anti-smoking campaign)they may let it pass, Also E-cig implies that you are at least consuming nicotine and quite a few PV users have quickly reduced nic levels to zero. So much for the highly addictive label.<br /><br />Finally, if you look at the product itself, PV makes more sense. Yes, the original style looked like a cigarette, even down to white batteries, a brownish liquid dispenser that looked like a filter and a red led tip. Now they come in all shapes and sizes, even some that look like pipes.psufan69https://www.blogger.com/profile/07894285485325166043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8237846547805652402.post-81508955401437024162010-12-12T17:38:26.561-05:002010-12-12T17:38:26.561-05:00There has been the same kind of nominalism concern...There has been the same kind of nominalism concerning hookah (shisha, nargeela, nargile, etc.), named "waterpipe" by the WHO Study Group on Tobacco Product Regulation (TobReg).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com